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	<title>Comments on: Residential Water Fuel Cell Energy System (1 of 2)</title>
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		<title>By: mattimber</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I made this over a year ago.  It was to illustrate a few different over-unity devices &amp; show in one unit.  Solid state is much better, but you can still have moving parts and keep it reliable. Id ditch the Quasiturbine and use a Bedini/Newman/Brandt motor to turn the cavitation heater, and/or also supply energy.  The newest version of the Papp engine is also a better idea. The water fuel cell is better suited for water purification or to run a car on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I made this over a year ago.  It was to illustrate a few different over-unity devices &#038; show in one unit.  Solid state is much better, but you can still have moving parts and keep it reliable. Id ditch the Quasiturbine and use a Bedini/Newman/Brandt motor to turn the cavitation heater, and/or also supply energy.  The newest version of the Papp engine is also a better idea. The water fuel cell is better suited for water purification or to run a car on.</p>
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		<title>By: atlanticus</title>
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		<dc:creator>atlanticus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few major problems with this.

Stirlings, Hydrosonic pumps, motors, gearings are NOISY, SQUEEKY, LEAKY and unpredictable  shits, these mechanical things wear off and require maintenable and oversight, not good for long time residental use, sorry this a wrong way to do this. 

You need everything SOLID STATE, non-mechanical, non-gas phase, not noisy moving parts that break and fail etc.

But nice job with designs, planning and all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few major problems with this.</p>
<p>Stirlings, Hydrosonic pumps, motors, gearings are NOISY, SQUEEKY, LEAKY and unpredictable  shits, these mechanical things wear off and require maintenable and oversight, not good for long time residental use, sorry this a wrong way to do this. </p>
<p>You need everything SOLID STATE, non-mechanical, non-gas phase, not noisy moving parts that break and fail etc.</p>
<p>But nice job with designs, planning and all.</p>
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		<title>By: mattimber</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets distinguish &quot;Perpetual Motion&quot; from &quot;Closed Loop Over-Unity.&quot;  Perpetual motion implies it moves forever, which is impossible because machines will break down eventually. WFCs are mostly solid state (no moving parts). 

Google &quot;PES Suppression.&quot;

Energy from the Vacuum will take time to prove, but I really dont care how its explained.  I only want these to become commercialized and available to everyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets distinguish &#8220;Perpetual Motion&#8221; from &#8220;Closed Loop Over-Unity.&#8221;  Perpetual motion implies it moves forever, which is impossible because machines will break down eventually. WFCs are mostly solid state (no moving parts). </p>
<p>Google &#8220;PES Suppression.&#8221;</p>
<p>Energy from the Vacuum will take time to prove, but I really dont care how its explained.  I only want these to become commercialized and available to everyone.</p>
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		<title>By: mattimber</title>
		<link>http://www.gaswaterfuel.com/residential-water-fuel-cell-energy-system-1-of-2/comment-page-1/#comment-2311</link>
		<dc:creator>mattimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you seen the links, or looked at Xogen?  Have you looked at Blacklight Power? The Bedini &amp; Newman Motors are also over-unity &amp; grab vacuum energy (&quot;cold electricity).  

Water Fuel Cells have been replicated and DO work and ARE over-unity.  Google Bob Boyce D9 PDF &amp; learn more.  Academia rejects these devices because they are stuck in Newtonian Physics.  Big oil &amp; energy interests suppress this technology because they cant meter it or compete with it once decentralized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you seen the links, or looked at Xogen?  Have you looked at Blacklight Power? The Bedini &#038; Newman Motors are also over-unity &#038; grab vacuum energy (&#8220;cold electricity).  </p>
<p>Water Fuel Cells have been replicated and DO work and ARE over-unity.  Google Bob Boyce D9 PDF &#038; learn more.  Academia rejects these devices because they are stuck in Newtonian Physics.  Big oil &#038; energy interests suppress this technology because they cant meter it or compete with it once decentralized.</p>
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		<title>By: farazag10</title>
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		<dc:creator>farazag10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the quantum vacuum theory is not even proven fully... so no claims using this theory! and I just wonder, let&#039;s say the big companied are against such discovery because of such and such reasons. Why is there not even ONE company/institution who would sponsor this idea and use it in the right way? At least the academic institutions would do something about it if it really worked... perpetual motion machines have always been proven wrong; but I hope his H2O energy source actually works!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the quantum vacuum theory is not even proven fully&#8230; so no claims using this theory! and I just wonder, let&#8217;s say the big companied are against such discovery because of such and such reasons. Why is there not even ONE company/institution who would sponsor this idea and use it in the right way? At least the academic institutions would do something about it if it really worked&#8230; perpetual motion machines have always been proven wrong; but I hope his H2O energy source actually works!</p>
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		<title>By: mattimber</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can you be so sure that it is impossible? Maybe Faraday missed something.  He never had 316L stainless steel or used PWM when he wrote the rules for electrolysis.  Stan Meyer&#039;s devices were well over-unity 700% efficient.  Other groups (includeing H2Earth) are recreating these devices using no catalysts. The extra energy is coming from the quantum vacuum (heat untracable).  

Before you decide to shun this as junk science, see my videos with David Wenbert, Xogen, Moray King &amp; Steven Greer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can you be so sure that it is impossible? Maybe Faraday missed something.  He never had 316L stainless steel or used PWM when he wrote the rules for electrolysis.  Stan Meyer&#8217;s devices were well over-unity 700% efficient.  Other groups (includeing H2Earth) are recreating these devices using no catalysts. The extra energy is coming from the quantum vacuum (heat untracable).  </p>
<p>Before you decide to shun this as junk science, see my videos with David Wenbert, Xogen, Moray King &#038; Steven Greer.</p>
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		<title>By: farazag10</title>
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		<dc:creator>farazag10</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in water cells, an electrical current supply is required in order to break the H2O molecule into H2 &amp; O. where are you gonna get the current from?!! assuming that you got, the amount of electricity generated from reaction of oxyhydrogen gas is NEVER going to be efficient enoughtto make up the used current for water decomposition. if it did, it means that the efficiency is 100%!! &amp; even if its resulting energy is even more, then we are generating energy out of nothing!! it&#039;s impossible bro...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in water cells, an electrical current supply is required in order to break the H2O molecule into H2 &#038; O. where are you gonna get the current from?!! assuming that you got, the amount of electricity generated from reaction of oxyhydrogen gas is NEVER going to be efficient enoughtto make up the used current for water decomposition. if it did, it means that the efficiency is 100%!! &#038; even if its resulting energy is even more, then we are generating energy out of nothing!! it&#8217;s impossible bro&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FearTurtles</title>
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		<dc:creator>FearTurtles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting video.  It may not be completely accurate but it does give a lot of good starting points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting video.  It may not be completely accurate but it does give a lot of good starting points.</p>
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		<title>By: mattimber</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattimber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot I&#039;ve learned about ZPE since I made this video.  I would not use the Quasiturbine, because the HHO gas must be pressurized to work in the QT.  I&#039;d instead try a microturbine or use the gas to heat graphite up and take the hot air into a stirling engine genset.  

An ever better option is to use the geovoltaic energy pump.  This avoids the dangers of using gas on demand &amp; is a much simpler way to generate electricity from the quantum vacuum (AKA zero-point energy, or ZPE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot I&#8217;ve learned about ZPE since I made this video.  I would not use the Quasiturbine, because the HHO gas must be pressurized to work in the QT.  I&#8217;d instead try a microturbine or use the gas to heat graphite up and take the hot air into a stirling engine genset.  </p>
<p>An ever better option is to use the geovoltaic energy pump.  This avoids the dangers of using gas on demand &#038; is a much simpler way to generate electricity from the quantum vacuum (AKA zero-point energy, or ZPE.</p>
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		<title>By: ChemicalMikeUK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChemicalMikeUK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 05:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b.t.w. i wouldnt bother with the h2 cell. i would use a battery already charged with electricity preferrably charged from green sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b.t.w. i wouldnt bother with the h2 cell. i would use a battery already charged with electricity preferrably charged from green sources.</p>
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